The Lefty argument for Gay Rights and Gay Marriage is explained well in this video,
BUT IT IS COMPLETELY THE WRONG ARGUMENT.
Watch the video, and then see my comments...
If you think homosexuality is an unnatural condition, I cannot agree with you - Q&A - YouTube: ""
The entire argument is based on whether or not Homosexuality is "natural", and whether or not people are "born that way" or not. The supposition is that if people are born that way, and God made them that way, and God makes no mistakes, therefore being Gay, or CHOOSING to have gay sex is "natural".
But those are a lot of suppositions. ALSO, they are all completely immaterial to the discussion.
The religious argument doesn't take the position of whether or not "natural" is part of the argument or not.
It is NATURAL for me (a straight man) to desire to have sex with many different women all the time- whether they want it or not... I am BORN that way... it is NATURAL for me to feel that way.
But as a Married man, I have to CHOOSE not to do it.
I have to CHOOSE not to have sex with other women.
It is a "natural" desire, I was "born that way", but I have to CHOOSE not to DO it.
You see, even if you're BORN with the propensity to desire something, it doesn't mean that you SHOULD proceed and do it or not.
So- is "BEING GAY" a choice? Who cares? Maybe, maybe not. Immaterial.
Is doing the ACT of having gay sex a choice?
OF COURSE IT IS.
I could CHOOSE to have gay sex if I wanted to, whether or not I were actually attracted to another man or not. I could CHOOSE to DO THE ACT or not.
The Catholic Church talks about condemning the SIN, and not the SINNER.
Which is completely and totally in line with how they view EVERY sin.
If I were to CHOOSE to commit adultery, then that would be "bad" in their eyes.
Therefore, whether or not wanting to have a same sex partner is natural (or not), it should have NO BEARING on the discussion of LEGAL marriage rights.
Just like the religious argument should have NO BEARING on the discussion of LEGAL marriage rights.
Because they have NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.
Two consenting adults who love each other, and who have CHOSEN to be with each other should have every LEGAL right to do so- otherwise it's actually GENDER DISCRIMINATION.
I applaud this guy for coming to a correct conclusion, but the underlying reasoning is nonsense.
Let's not allow the "Is it a choice or not?" discussion to EVER be raised again.
"Gay Civil Rights" are just RIGHTS- for people of any gender.
And 2 consenting adults should be FREEEEEE to legally commit to each other.
Done.
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